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#1 Waervyn

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Lähetetty 23 huhtikuu 2012 - 12:36

Dear Herppi.net people,

I recently moved to Finland for my work (Biology researcher, focussing on ants). I'm originally Dutch, and used to keep many different kinds of animals. Mostly ants, but also some praying mantids, beetles, long-tailed lizards and predatory bugs.
I've been trying to find some information for Finland.

- In the Netherlands, most pet-shops are not very good for exotic animals. Either they don't have them, or they don't have a clue about them. Is that the same in Finland? If not, what are recommendable pet-shops?
- Are there hobbyists that sell? If so, where to find them?
- What would be the best way to get equipment here, such as terraria, heatmats etc.

I live in Helsinki.

Hope I posted this in the right forum, my google-translate skills told me this was the most appropriate place.

Thanks a lot!

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Lähetetty 23 huhtikuu 2012 - 13:10

It's pretty much the same here in Finland. Most of them don't have exotic animals and those that do, only have the most common species. Essentially, as far as acquiring animals goes, shops are for suckers and those who don't know any breeders yet. Or maybe I'm a bit harsh. The shops vary in reputation, but my personal opinion is that they all have their shortcomings and I can't recommend or criticize any specific store or chain. When it comes to equipment, you can get the basic things from the stores. Substrates, decorations, heat mats, whatever Exo Terra makes. Be sure to compare prices, there are significant differences between stores. Glass enclosures are readily available in most pet stores that sell exotic animals and there are online stores that sell wooden enclosures, but if you're looking for stackable plastic enclosures, you're going to have to get them from abroad. Since you live in Helsinki, there should be plenty of pet stores to choose from. I'm sure we could point out a few pet stores in your area, just so that you'd have somewhere to start looking.

Hobbyists that sell... That's pretty much just here and on some of the smaller Finnish forums. Have a look in the classifieds section ("Kauppatori"). Is there anything specific that you are looking for?

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Lähetetty 23 huhtikuu 2012 - 22:01

I have to say that you posted your message in to the right place. :)

And you can also buy terraria and other stuff in here from the "Kauppatori" section. (but mostly they are used)

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Lähetetty 24 huhtikuu 2012 - 05:11

This weekend there is exhibition in Helsinki http://www.herppi.ne...12/#entry241957 , That would be very good place to find other hobbyists and make new friends here in finland. :) There is allso breeders selling foodinsects, snakes and other reptiles. You can allso buy terrariums and other stuff from there..

Dont hesitate to make topics in english here or ask for help. Im quite sure people would love to help you to find your way around..

And btw, welcome to Finland Waervyn !

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Lähetetty 24 huhtikuu 2012 - 06:10

http://www.herppi.net/classifieds/ is where you find people who sell animals and other stuff here in herppi.net

You can allso make there topic if you are looking for something wich is not allready there..

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Lähetetty 24 huhtikuu 2012 - 07:58

Thanks a lot for the answers, very helpful!
I'll try and go to that exposition (if I'm not doing fieldwork in Tvärminne at that point).

I'm not looking for anything specific yet. Most probably I'll start some ant colonies again, and maybe some beetles/praying mantids/phasmids. For a long time in the Netherlands I was thinking of having a Thamnopis snake, but since I had to move I decided against it. Still in love with them though!
Not going to start on lizards (which I love), as I might be moving quite a lot. I also saw some information on snales. They look kind of interesting, but I don't know enough about them yet.

Time to do more research! Thanks again for the information!

Viimeksi muokannut Waervyn, 24 huhtikuu 2012 - 08:05.


#7 Waervyn

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Lähetetty 24 huhtikuu 2012 - 09:11

Gah, sorry for the extra post. Was trying to edit the previous one to remove spelling mistakes, but ended up quoting it instead, curse my failing at google-translate.
Then I tried to remove this message, but can't find out how.

Aaaah, the fun things of learning a new language (:

Viimeksi muokannut Waervyn, 24 huhtikuu 2012 - 09:14.


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Lähetetty 24 huhtikuu 2012 - 09:23

That´s ok. :)

I think we all have some spelling mistakes, or it´s just me that has those... ;)

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Lähetetty 24 huhtikuu 2012 - 14:16

That´s ok. :)

I think we all have some spelling mistakes, or it´s just me that has those... ;)

... just dont care about spelling mistakes. We all do them, even with our motherlanguage. :rolleyes:

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Lähetetty 24 huhtikuu 2012 - 20:11

^ Exactly even the best of us make mistakes :)

But seriously, if you have anything to ask, ask. Someone here said that "There are no stupid questions, the people who don't ask are stupid themselves" In finnish of course,
and don't always trust google translator, it doesn't like the other forms of Finnish words so mistakes are common.

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Lähetetty 24 huhtikuu 2012 - 20:18

I think only pet shop where I could imagen myself to buy reptiles and other terrarium animals is Tiia's pet it's in Järvenpää. It's only place where I have seen animals have good care and beautiful terrariums. ^_^

And little hint for future. Muokkaa is in English Edit and that's how you can edit your messages if needed. ;)

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Lähetetty 24 huhtikuu 2012 - 21:29

Heh you hit the jackpot sugar. This is the best and at the same time largest finnish forum of reptiles, bugs, spiders and gastropods.

If you can't find it here, you can't find it inside Finland.

And as people said above, if you wish to meet other hobbyist do join us at the expo this weekend. Some of us will be at section 2c42. Give us a holler if you happen to walk by. (I'll be the one with pigtails and an orange shirt, with the cute lil' boa constrictor around my neck :D )

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Lähetetty 24 huhtikuu 2012 - 21:48

Here you can look the ticket prices and opening times etc. :)

http://web.finnexpo....es/default.aspx

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Lähetetty 24 huhtikuu 2012 - 22:12

Awesome!

Thanks a lot! I'll drop by (tall guy that doesn't speak finnish ^^).
Don't know if it'll be saturday or sunday though!

Thanks a lot for the information everyone! Kiitos =)

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Lähetetty 24 huhtikuu 2012 - 22:30

Thanks a lot! I'll drop by (tall guy that doesn't speak finnish ^^).


Great! :) (Hahahah you just described every dutch guy I have ever met XD )

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Lähetetty 25 huhtikuu 2012 - 09:03

Tiia's pet it's in Järvenpää

Current name of the brick and mortar shop in Järvenpää is Vipeltäjät. Name 'Tiia's Pets' is used only online.

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Lähetetty 25 huhtikuu 2012 - 21:40

Hey Waervyn and welcome to Finland!

Now I need to ask, have you in Netherlands animals and terrarium stuff in hardware stores? We were on vacation in Germany last autumn and there were a really good repetuary of terrarium stuff in hardware store (I can`t remember the name of the store anymore), and there were many different animal species on sale too. It was really strange to see animals in hardware store. We don`t have even terrarium stuff in our hardware stores here in Finland. Welcome to Herppi.net! :)
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Lähetetty 25 huhtikuu 2012 - 22:13

Hi there!

If I understood correctly you are biologist or biology student? Do you know Dr. Jouni Sorvari? Or CBEES? Biologist Sorvari knows a lot about ants and studies them. Dr. Tapio van Ooik can probably speak Dutch. I'm not quite sure, because I have never heard him speak Dutch. Here´s some links that might interest you.
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Lähetetty 26 huhtikuu 2012 - 00:11

@Wiikku, not that I know of. It's pretty hard to find pet-shops that have 'exotic animals' already, haven't heard of hardware stores that have 'm.

@Krisu, I personally don't know them (arrived in Finland 3 weeks ago). I just asked my colleague Heikki Helantera, and he knows them. I'll probably meet them. I'm a biologist (post-doctoral researcher Evolutionary Biology. Did my PhD in Copenhagen).

Thanks for the links. I'll check them out =)

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Lähetetty 29 huhtikuu 2012 - 19:19

@SDR, couldn't find you unfortunately. Also wasn't there for superlong, but had a good time. Lot's of nice animals, and the exhibition hall is gigantic.

Was looking for Chromatopelma cyanopubescens, Pachnoda beetles and Achatina snails, and found 2 of those. Quickly made 2 pictures of them =)

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